' What is Existence ? '...

KARL: Is there a difference?

You can make a difference, if you like.

You may say enlightenment is going from the "I am so-and-so" to the "I am."

Satori, going from identification to non-identification, you can make it "enlightenment."

You can say enlightenment is even to have an experience of that light, or an experience that you are light and everything else is illusion.

Then you run around like light.

"I am real, but everything else is not."

So you are landing there in what is called "light."

And then there is an enlightened one who sees all unenlightened ones around him.

So then you're in the God-consciousness and you see only pigs sitting around you.

JAMES: So you can be an avatar, or whatever.

KARL: Whatever.

JAMES: But what about Self-realization?

KARL: Self-realization I would call the realization that That which is Self is ever-realized and doesn't need anyone to realize anything.

But this is not a realization of something, this is a non-realization.

This is a realization that existence, for sure, doesn't need a pot to realize what is existence.



-Karl Renz
If You Wake Up, Don't Take It Personally
Aperion Books
p.88